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Collegetownstudios
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My Journey After Clips4Sale

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So, most of you know I left Clips4Sale back in 2015. I couldn't stand the feeling of Porn in my Shoeplay.
I also didn't like the feeling of a 30% - 40% pay cut. I totally understand the need for a pay cut of that magnitude, however, because server prices and hard drive space is quite expensive.

I established my own online store and began selling videos that way. Within the year I made almost three times what I made in a year on C4S.

But then a problem arose. Chargebacks.

Some of you who have followed my progress know the issue I've had with chargebacks.
For those who don't know what a chargeback is: It's when you buy something, and then tell your card company or bank that you didn't so they will take the money back from the person you purchased from. Usually it results in a return. But with digital material, it results in theft.

I was flooded with Chargebacks to the point it caused my website to go under twice.

I got a handle on it, after doing some deep information gathering on the people who did it, and I came out triumphant, but it was irrelevant. Because when you have too many chargebacks as a small business, you will get booted from your payment processor regardless of whose fault it was.

The chargeback issue extended from my time as an Online store owner, to my time owning a streaming website.

Currently, I am resting from all of this, and putting together a more powerful product.

I see how my fellow filmers are feeling and I want to say, "I know it's frightening. But you CAN make the jump, and you WILL survive. If you adapt."


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I remember you, waiting for your triumphant return
Collegetownstudios
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Herzal wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:36 am I remember you, waiting for your triumphant return
Thank you, I am preparing to step back in the ring with something rather lovely very soon.
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Hey mate,

I only had a small C4S store and was p*ssed off by there 40% practice also. Plus they have a chargeback rate of 20%, I have mailed with their service and they gave out some numbers. They CALCULATE with it! But you as a shop owner have to pay the price for this, may it be money or the lost clips.

On fussphantasie and cc-feet I also had chargebacks over and over, so I limited the access with very strict rules for new customers. This policy is not accepted by some people, but it helps to prevent having to shut down your own site.

Sad, but thank you for telling us, that we are not alone dealing with this shady behavior.

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Just reminded me of it: The EU demands for shops dealing with credit cards a 2-factor-authentification now. Sadly many of US customers haven't 2FA activated so the cards get denied. Same for many debit cards. But it is a way for the future. I have 2FA now at my site and yes, sales dropped at first, but customers see the need in long term.
Collegetownstudios
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davidr wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:37 am Sad, but thank you for telling us, that we are not alone dealing with this shady behavior.
I hear you Marco. You are not alone. We have a common enemy, and it is the people that choose to chargeback us after getting good material.

2-Factor Authentication is cool, but I plan to be more secure than that.

Fortunately, I am almost ready to rise back from the ashes, triumphantly.

I hope to help you and others along this path as well. I feel it will be the most secure for us all, however, I must test this.

By the way. Which would you suggest as the better intro to my videos.

VIDEO:
or
PICTURE:
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davidr
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Collegetownstudios wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:01 am By the way. Which would you suggest as the better intro to my videos.
That's all up to you :D
But I wouldn't show faces in your intro.

Safer than 2FA?
Besides checking the credit cards I have 2 other options, send me a mail over one of my websites please.
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davidr wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:39 am
Collegetownstudios wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:01 am By the way. Which would you suggest as the better intro to my videos.
That's all up to you :D
But I wouldn't show faces in your intro.

Safer than 2FA?
Besides checking the credit cards I have 2 other options, send me a mail over one of my websites please.
You make a good point about the faces.
I will just take them off the Instagram for now.
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