Is there really a market for candid shoeplay clips?

[kayahan121]

I am sorry to bother you all, but I was wondering, if there really was a market for candid shoeplay clips. Personally, I hate staged stuff and it is harder and harder to find nice candid videos. I have hours of nice videos of a co-worker and everything is 100% candid. I see the occasional patreon here and there, but is it worth the hassle? Does anyone here have any real experience with selling stuff like that?

[Beavis74]

I think they should be shared, not sold. But that's just my opinion.

[nyllover]

Selling candid videos has become more and more difficult, since Visa and Mastercard added lots of requirements on the videos that can be sold online. You basically need signed consent and ID copy of everyone involved in the video.
Patreon might work for a while, till you get caught. Same for other platforms: it all works till you get caught.

The best you can hope for, is to make a few bucks from it...is it worth the hassle? In my opinion: not if you do it for money. It's way easier to work with models and get all the required documents.

[JWCooley126]

True candid shoeplay isn't something you can monetize anymore, just the way it is.

[ShoeplayJ]

No there isn't anymore. At this point, your options are going Full Throttle Dinosaur and accepting mailed checks, cash or money orders or something less professional like accepting crypto or Cash App lol. Hell, even if you produce "staged candid" that LOOKS too real —even with model releases, ID, proof of consent etc. etc.— a lot of these places will reject it LOL. That's how strict this shit is now.

That being said, I don't think candid clips themselves necessarily have to become a lost art. People just need to rethink the way in which they go about sharing and acquiring them. So many people already have such large collections of things they've either bought or themselves produced, I'd say trading should become a thing. Like JWCooley126 said, it's not a realistic way to make money anymore and as Nyllover said, even if you find some kind of a loophole, you'll only be able to get away with it but for so long before you get caught.

Not worth it.

[jollyblue78]

I personally, after being banned from FOUR sites, have resigned myself but not given up. I have the clips in my hdd and I exchange them upon payment on paypal. Is it inconvenient? Sure. But it works.
I don't do candid clip to earn money but for the love I have for this kind of material. It is only the passion that give me the motivations to dedicate a lot of time and risks to find the girl, approach her, film her and then edit the material. If I also earn something from it, even better.

[assy]

The main issue with candid clips is not the illegality of it but that most of them are fucking awful. I am editing all the candids I have, and often I end up with less than a minute of proper action from a twenty-minute clip. If every store would sell only decent candids (i.e. where the girl is performing some proper intense foot gymnastics with her footwear and is unaware of the camera) there would not be much left to sell.
I got burned too often in the past so stopped spending money on candids years ago. Add to that the seedy voyeurism and stalker element to it and I won't be buying them any more.

[pumplover]

One of the few (maybe only) people out there doing high quality candid clips is Johnny Shoefoot, and he chooses to just share the wealth with everyone.

[assy]

...and it looks like he is gone now - cannot find him on FB any more...