Crazy For Feet Forum

I'm always on YT searching wedding videos, especially in other countrires as they have great traditions....
I watch these long videos hoping for some shoeplay....bu damn it I swear, more than 75% of the women just a couple hours into the wedding will change to flats! Early on in the video you see all these women in beautiful heels, but 2 hours in, they are all in flats. Can't you women, just for us guys sake handle being in heels for 1/4 of a day? I get it, they are not comfortable, but we don't ask you to do it every day. Flats are NOT conducive to shoeplay...the reason you put flats on is that your feet are hurting in heels....just SUCKS!

So as it turns out, I went to a wedding today. Casual affair, a small family gathering for a close friend of my wife. My wife wore black flats with her tights; unfortunately the reception was in a tiled church basement so she couldn't take her shoes off, though she told me after that she did slip her shoes off in the church. The bride wore a short businessy skirt outfit (second marriage for her, so she didn't need to go all-out) with bare legs (ugh) and 2" heeled sandals. Halfway through visiting the family, she traded her sandals for flats. Her maid of honor, her sister, opted for a skirt and flats with bare legs as well.

The best prospects were the younger sisters of the groom, the older probably 21 or 22 and the younger maybe 18 or 19. The older sister wore a dress hemmed just below her knees, with suntan nylons (yay) and black lace-up pumps. Ugly shoes, but at least she was trying. Little sister wore a dress and cardigan with black mid-calf leggings and simple black flats. She popped her heels a few times but no major shoeplay. Big sister made it through the reception, but as we set to cleaning up, she reappeared sans heels, now wearing black-and-gray fabric slippers. I actually found the contrast of elegant dress/nylons and frumpy casual slippers alluring (and also pretty much an admission that her fancy shoes hurt).

This was an exceptionally small wedding as they go - no dancing, just a ceremony and lunch basically - so I went in expecting little. I have another wedding to go to next week, which should be a little more toward traditional reception/dancing fare, so we'll see how that goes.

But my experience with weddings lately is that more and more women feel comfortable barefooting on the dance floor, or changing shoes. At one wedding a couple years ago, I ran to our hotel room to exchange my wife's tall sandals for her flip-flops; the bride had also set out a basket of flip-flops for her girlfriends to borrow. And one of our friends ditched her sandals as soon as we arrived at the reception, happily running about barefoot all night.

Mr. Mike wrote:Flats are NOT conducive to shoeplay...

I dunno, man. I wouldn't say never (I know you didn't, but still lol). Granted, it's certainly less likely happen if they switched from heels TO flats. But in general, it's my experience that shoeplay can happen in flats just as much as with heels. I've witnessed plenty of shoeplay situations over the years, wherein the subject was wearing flats. For instance, between the years of 2009 and 2011, I Interned in two different office buildings, where flats were the shoe of choice for most of the women. If you liked feet, you were guaranteed to see some kind of action at least once a day. The downside is, aside from less than a handful of the women there, most of them wore their flats with no hosiery. But it would've been a very cold day in hell before you ever got through the day without see something.

One of the women whom I helped a lot during my first Internship in '09-'10, always wore nude stockings and ballet flats. She was at least 30 years my Senior and a bit on the heavy side, but her feet were nice. She shoeplayed quite often, or would just completely take her shoes off at her cubicle. My good friend who helped oversee the Internship program I was in (she's actually the one who got me my job there, in the first place), put on a couple of really nice little shows. The best was with these Yellow soft-soled moccasins and sheer tan or sheer nude nylons she wore often. I'll never forget it. A bunch of us were sitting around at the end of the day, and as she sat a few feet away from me, she crossed her left leg over her right one and began slightly leaning back in her chair. You would think that this would make for a pretty good dangling situation, but she didn't do that. Instead, with the foot that was still resting on the floor, she began dipping in and out of her shoes as she leaned back, once completely leaving the shoe on the ground and flexing her foot, leaving her bright red toes exposed for a few seconds. I remember she caught me looking, and gave me this little smile. I was already crushing her hard, at the time, and I think she knew. lol


I also think of lot of it just depends on the individual woman. If she's not the type of shoeplay or take her shoes off in a public setting, then it's just not going to happen, regardless of her footwear. For example (last one, I swear) At that first Internship, the Main Supervisor wore stockings and high heels almost every day, but I swear, that woman never ever removed her shoes. The most that ever happened was when I caught a quick glimpse of her sliding her heel out once, but her pant legs were so long and it was so quick, it might as well have not even happened. It's not like she was super reserved either, and there wasn't any rules against employees taking their shoes off in the office. She just didn't do it. I also heard around that that she was quite comfortable in heels. The woman never wore any kind of flat soled shoes in the entire year that I worked there.


There's a few other examples I can think of, but I don't wish to hi-jack your topic any further. I can't even remember what point I was initially making. lol

i find women dangle in flats far more then in heels. Mr Mike hates flip flops too amd always complains about it in the summer.

Ahhh yes, there's lots of dangling potential with flats. You're definitely right on the money, there. It's been a long time since I last saw a woman dangle in heels — in person, that is.

I honestly don't really care for flip-flops or other open shoes myself. I just personally find they leave nothing to the imagination. It's odd, because I like feet just as much as I like shoeplay. But I guess I also like the anticipation too. {insert shrug emoticon here}

I know that some girls will shoeplay in flats...but just the fact they're changing into flats because their feet hurt just sucks. Yes, you nailed it, I cannot stand flip flops...I'm not really a "foot guy"...for me it's all about the shoeplay.

Mr. Mike wrote:I know that some girls will shoeplay in flats...but just the fact they're changing into flats because their feet hurt just sucks. Yes, you nailed it, I cannot stand flip flops...I'm not really a "foot guy"...for me it's all about the shoeplay.

Ahhh that makes sense now that you explained it. My "original" fetish was for nylons and shoeplay but it has evolved to include bare feet and just feet over the years. It started liking when fellow students wore nylons in HS and then watching them shoeplaying in class

In Mr. Mike's defense...shoeplay is different now.

I'm in my mid-thirties. I first became aware of my fetish, or at least what it meant and how there were other people similarly inclined, in the late '90s. At the time, you had guys like Johnny Nova chasing shoeplay scenarios on camera. Almost all of them were in heels. But in general, when well-dressed, women were in heels, usually classic pumps of a varying heel height. Schoolteachers taught in pumps, news anchors wore pumps, shopping channel hosts wore pumps, even fashion-forward TV lawyers like Ally McBeal wore pumps. Moreover, they often wore those shoes with hose. So when they sat down, they'd dangle, voluntarily or not.

Now, strappy and laced shoes are in. And no matter how tall the heels on those shoes get, they're impossible to play with, making them evil torture chambers. And those are only for occasions deemed formal. When it's warm out, flip-flops (if you're wearing clothes) or sneakers (if you're wearing athleticwear) are in. When it's cold out, it's boots, boots and more boots. Probably half the floor space in the local DSW alternates between tall boots from fall through winter, and flip-flops/flat sandals from spring through mid-summer.

So young women don't really wear proper pumps for dangling anymore, nor do they have any time to get used to them when they do. They barely wear real shoes most of the year. (I distinctly remember being at my 10-year high school reunion, seeing a girl there who I'd watch shoeplay her way through junior and senior year. She had tall pumps on, and she kept rocking her ankles side to side, the "I can't walk in these and my feet hurt" sort of gesture. Interestingly, in her few photos online since then, she's always in sneakers.) I can think of one female friend who wore pumps regularly; she'd sometimes opt for boots or strappy heels, but most days she went for pumps averaging a 4-5" heel.

And so you get women bringing spare shoes to change into at events (my wife's done this at a couple weddings), or you get wedding hosts putting out flip-flops for girls who don't want to dance in their bare feet. But few women tough it out until their feet hurt. Fewer women sit there and dangle their shoes for relief; they're content to just take them off. It's sort of expected.

As for shoeplay in flats...flats kind of lend themselves to shoeplay. Most of them are made for looks, not comfort, and they have stiff flat soles. When worn barefoot, they might stay on better, but when worn with nylons or tights, they're all too easy to pop off. I'm all for that, myself. I love shoeplay with flats because to me, it's a sign of a girl who simply can't keep her shoes on. But it's too easy and often inelegant. There's less art to it. So I can see why others might hold out for what amounts to the real thing.

yes paradigm, its all about the boots in the winter, even today it is in the 50's where I live and people at the grocery store were all in boots...i hate it... One of the reason my fetish evolved to include barefeet shoeplay in the early 90's was women stopped wearing nylons for the most part.. I was lucky in HS and early parts of college when girls wore knee high nude nylons with pants and pantyhose with skirts...then all of a sudden that all changed
i do love legs too so seeing a woman in nylons or tights with boots is a turn on, but knowing there is no chance of shoeplay kinda curbs it at a certain level

paradigm88 wrote: I love shoeplay with flats because to me, it's a sign of a girl who simply can't keep her shoes on. But it's too easy and often inelegant. There's less art to it. So I can see why others might hold out for what amounts to the real thing.

Hmmm. That makes sense. Actually your whole post is dead-on. I thought I was well aware of just how much shoeplay had changed over the decades, but now that you've put it all into perspective, I'm seeing some things that made me go "hey, you know, that's right! Damn..."

And like llama, my tastes have pretty much changed with the times as well, to include bare feet. Growing up, bare feet did almost nothing for me, unless the subject's feet were really nice to begin with. My fetish started with stockings and socks, so that's what I wanted to see. These days, I find bare feet can be just as much of a turn-on, though I still prefer to see stockings. I'd be lying if I said I didn't get burnt out on the bare look, though. It's really all you ever see anymore. It's either flip-flops, sandals or sneakers. Flats are usually worn bare, and come winter time, even if the subject is wearing stockings, she's wearing some kind of boots too.

I'm definitely a foot guy, but when it comes to shoeplay, I suppose I have certain "criteria" that should be met. Basically, it all boils down to how much the shoes show. Shoes that show too much (i.e. flip-flops and other assorted open shoes) do nothing for me. Shoeplay with those kinds of shoes, I equate to a woman doing a strip tease with some type of see-thru bikini. lol Sure it looks good, but it's not much of a tease, if I can basically already see everything. I dunno. lol And shoes that show too little (certain types of sneakers etc) are okay, but still not quite my cup of tea. In the case of the latter, I'll take what I can get. As a general rule though, I like a balance, and again, that anticipation. I abhor boots. lol

I've noticed recently that women wearing stockings tend to shoeplay less, as opposed to their bare counterparts wearing the same type of shoes. I've seen quite a few ladies in the past few years, rocking stockings and "shoeplay-able" shoes, but you're lucky if you can get even a glimpse of a heel. On the other hand, the women with no hosiery are hardly shy about it. They'll be sliding and swirling their shoes all around, dipping in and out, resting their toes on the backs of their shoes etc. It's great stuff to see, but there's always that one thing missing.

Either last year or the year prior, I was waiting at the DMV to renew my license plate, and as you can imagine: the place was packed and almost all of the seats were taken. I was standing against a wall right near the Exit/Entrance, and I'd been watching an older some several feet up with dark stockings and brown hard heeled loafers. She'd been leaning up against this counter and kept shifting her feet, but the damn shoes never came off. She just barely let her heel out (not even enough for a noticeable gap between it and the shoe), but other than that, nothing. She seemed quite uncomfortable, because we were all waiting for a good 45 minutes to an hour.

Just something that I've noticed a lot. Maybe only the more reserved ladies are rocking nylons these days. lol sigh

I've had to really give this some thought to think of who, in our combined circle of friends, is an honest-to-goodness shoeplayer. Someone who's pretty reliable, someone who you have to watch at any gathering. And I'm coming up pretty blank.

A part of it could be that social gatherings rarely afford the opportunity. Most house parties are shoes-off-at-the-door. Most out-of-the-house gatherings are dinners, movie nights, or something where dressing up is unnecessary. Most seem to have jobs where practicality wins out over elegance for work attire. My wife, for instance, is a school teacher. It's flats for her every day, either barefoot/with socks (if she wears pants) or tights (if she wears a dress in fall and winter). The other teachers in the circle follow that pattern. They largely aren't shoeplayers (my wife excepted, but it's more a conscious behavior for her).

There are exceptions. A friend of ours is a dancer; she's quite comfortable barefoot and becoming shoeless, though she's not much of a shoeplayer. A friend I see once in a great while used to be a dipper/shoeplayer at work, but mostly did so when her shoes were hurting her feet. I always wondered if she sort of caught on. The friend I hinted at in my previous post, who used to wear 4-5" pumps to work every day of the week, was never a shoeplayer. And yet, when we went out for a group dinner years ago, she'd come from work in her usual skirt suit/tights/tall heels ensemble, and as I looked next to me at the table, she had taken her heels off while talking to a guy she sort of liked. I always wished I'd called her on that.

But in a world of casual shoes, boots, laced and strapped heels, sandals, bare feet and even little sticky things to fit into the heel so your shoes don't slip (my friend told me she used those), there's precious little room left for the true art of shoeplay.

I've had to really give this some thought to think of who, in our combined circle of friends, is an honest-to-goodness shoeplayer. Someone who's pretty reliable, someone who you have to watch at any gathering. And I'm coming up pretty blank.

Hmmm. I think we all have known that one woman who wears the perfect shoeplayable footwear, but either rarely or never shoeplays. Like my Supervisor that I mentioned few posts up, as well as my friend who got me my internship.

I'm actually still friends with the girl who got me that internship, all those years ago. She was not much of a shoeplayer at all, but she always wore the right stuff. Needless to say, the rare times I caught her in the act, it made my heart jump. I remember whenever I had to walk past her cubicle, I would glance over, hoping to see something. Nine times out of ten, there was nothing to see. She often wore tan nylons, with these brown wedge-heel pumps or the aforementioned soft-sole moccasins. Occasionally she wore these really tall high heel peep-toe pumps, which she usually wore with some type of skirt (her legs were incredible too, and I'm not even really a leg person.) . A perfect combination for shoeplay, but the most actual shoeplay I ever witnessed from her was the time I mentioned a few posts up, while she was wearing those moccasins. With that being said, I fondly recall one particular afternoon where I walked past her cubicle and got quite a visual. Mind you, she wasn't really shoeplaying. Her feet were actually quite still, but her shoes almost off. What caught my eye was the fact that she was sitting in way to where her feet were almost completely out of her shoes. I mean those wedge-heel pumps were pretty much dangling precariously from her toes, and hanging on for dear life. I'd never seen her do anything like that before, and I would never see anything close to it from her again. I just couldn't believe how soft and creamy her heels and soles were. I would've stopped and chatted her up for a moment, since we always had great conversations. But I could tell she was preoccupied, plus she was ready to leave. It was near the end of the day, she had her coat on, and she was busy filling out some kind of paperwork. I'm not sure what all was going on, but she didn't seem to happy at that moment either. Now, had she been wearing stockings that day, I'd have thrown caution to the wind and found some reason to hang out with her for few minutes.

Her clothing style has vastly changed these days. Gone is the sexy secretary look, now in favor of a Grunge Rocker meets Preppy Hipster type attire. She'll still wear stockings occasionally — all black stockings. But the high heel pumps and soft-soled moccasins have been traded for what looks like Converse Chuck-Taylors. I get that she probably always dressed differently outside the office, but it's still kind of surprising to see. Ahh well. It was nice while it lasted.

A part of it could be that social gatherings rarely afford the opportunity.

Yeah, I've never gone into social gatherings with any such expectations. I've noticed that libraries aren't very reliable places to find anything good these days either. At least not the ones in my area. To be fair, I also don't frequent them that often, but the rare times I do go, there's usually nothing to see. The most recent "shoeplay" I actually saw was during a Course Orientation I had back in September, and even then there was really nothing to it. A younger woman sitting a few tables ahead of me, simply slightly took her sneakers off to let her heels out. She was wearing Nike Air Jordans and black socks. The "action" went no further than that though. She sat there the remainder of the hour like that.

Mr. Mike wrote:I'm always on YT searching wedding videos, especially in other countrires as they have great traditions....
I watch these long videos hoping for some shoeplay....bu damn it I swear, more than 75% of the women just a couple hours into the wedding will change to flats! Early on in the video you see all these women in beautiful heels, but 2 hours in, they are all in flats. Can't you women, just for us guys sake handle being in heels for 1/4 of a day? I get it, they are not comfortable, but we don't ask you to do it every day. Flats are NOT conducive to shoeplay...the reason you put flats on is that your feet are hurting in heels....just SUCKS!

Well the people who shoot these weddings are not their to film shoeplay? But I understand your grief

BuT from my experiences I get more action from flats than heels. But in todays "boot camp" fashions you are luck to get either

Oh, I know they aren't shooting shoeplay, I'm just frustrated at the amount of women that change into flats (they just do nothing for me)
I live in the city so still see my fair share of high heels...even the group of people we hang out with...the girls are usually dressed pretty well.

"Shoeplay3"...hell I didn't even know their were libraries around anymore.

Mr. Mike wrote:"Shoeplay3"...hell I didn't even know their were libraries around anymore.

Meh. You're not missing anything, that's for sure. Book stores can be either hit or miss. The most action I found was in the computer lab of the Community College I was taking courses at years ago.


As far as videos on YT, I've had more luck in the past with lecture videos than Weddings. Every bit of recent wedding footage I've ever seen, involves most of the ladies in attendance wearing flip-flops. I think I have an old collection of some lectures I downloaded years ago that had a few nice dipping moments. Maybe I can look in the next few days and see if I have them. If so, I can share.


And that's not my name.

That would be awesome

This high-heel-change into flats kind of trend is clearly present in the last 3-4 years. It's not only the videos but the pics as well. You can hardly find a decent party where the girls will dance nylon footed after those killer heels came off. After those killer heels flats are coming usually . I attended a wedding last year and my wife had an aching feet after few hours of standing and sitting. She was begging me to take her low heels from the car. I brought her them after she promissed me, that she will be few minutes shoeless at the table Later she was dancing in those low heels and I took a few photos of her. After seeing those photos, she commented me, that she is looking unclassy in those low heels and she doesn't like the pics. The high heels were much better choice. I will try to convince her, that next time she should stay nylon footed if the high heels are killing her!

Well, flats are better than nothing. I personally like flat shoeplay but of course there's nothing like pump shoeplay. Women shoeplay much more frequently in flats as they come out easily in contrary to the pumps. Unfortunatelly at this moment pumps and flats are out of fashion and they are worn only in weddings, in Churches, in offices and clubs. We can only wait until the fashion Nazis decide to bring them back as part of the women's casual wardrobe.

I love flats. I love heels too.

To say flats are not conducive to shoeplay is moot. Yes, heels hurt and tire a girl's feet, but that's not the only reason why girls actually shoeplay.

Shoeplay can rise from habit as well, and you could see guys do this too (of course it is not sexy to us) but it is also indeed act of habit. From my personal experience, girls tend to shoeplay in flats quite a lot. I took a stroll in a mall - the salesgirl on break was dangling her flats, and I came across a table of 4 more sales girls (all flats) doing a short meeting. Guess what? They were dangling 1 foot while heelpopping the other. I left them to eat in the food court, came back and they were still dangling after 4 minutes.

And there are many times when girls will not dangle or dip their feet out of flats, because they chose to modify their natural behaviour/habit due to circumstances. When they go to the library and study, what do I notice? They take their flats off