Opinions & questions on the hunt for shoeplay

diplover1974 · Post by **diplover1974** » Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:42 pm

Since my young school days I've always searched for shoeplayers, specially at school ( moving every years, in different schools in different countries ) , I started making my own rules for it, because it was getting into some sort of addiction.. we all learn with our mistakes.

At school / university it was quite simple, I just had to spot who had the best shoes for shoeplay at sit near by.
Rain, cold weather were always a sign that on that day I would payed attention to class..

I'm still on the hunt for good shoeplay, shopping centers, libraries, coroporate events, weddings, trade shows, airports,etc..
I have some simple rules, avoid eyecontact with the shoeplayer, be always alert for security guys.
When cellphones became affordable some years ago, it was a blessing, I made it my cover story ( I'm always on the phone talking to someone ) but it is still suspicious after 3 or 4 hrs on the same shopping center ... I only got approached by security once... he called a few cops in plain clothes that approached me and took me to an alley, frisked me and asked tons of questions. .. I was quite nervous but maintain my cover story, they had nothing on me, so they excused themselves and let me go.

Other than that no problems.

Since I don't talk to any shoeplayer, avoid eye contact, usually there's no problem.

The good thing for us is that there will always be trade shows , shopping center's with shop assistants, students studing in food court areas with shoeplay-shoes !!!!

With this global crisis the bi-annual car show we used to have is gone.. so I 'm looking for shop-assistants these last months, mostly wear flats or low heels.
But it's not easy, you have to find the right shop where there might be a shoeplayer, that has a visible spot from the outside where you can have a good angle, and finally the right day because shifts change.. not easy.

Questions, opinions are welcomed !
Later guys

Footsiefreak · Post by **Footsiefreak** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:37 am

Yeah I have learned that reality can help cure any addiction.Of course the 80s and 90s were the Golden Ages of hosed shoeplay.I was just like you just go anywhere to find shoeplay.But then times changed and woman started wearing less hose and more of the dreaded boots.So reality just checked in and said I am not finding hosed shoeplay anymore so I gotta find it somewhere else.So now I just watch it online.Of course its not the same as being there live but at least I can relive over and over stop and rewind etc etc.

Yes when I was younger like in my teens I would always try to start a conversation with the shoeplayer even if it was a stranger.Of course its a mistake but some of us see this woman who is making our desires come true and we want to get to know them like they are a celebrity to us.

Of course I been busted by security and they just tell you to move it along.But your story was pretty intense.They have nothing on you for looking at a woman so they cant throw you in jail or anything.But I learned you gotta stick and move.Stay at one spot for an hour and just go somewhere else.

rowbbinn · Post by **rowbbinn** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:32 am

This topic is fantastic!

I totally agree with you!

I still think that trade shows are the best place for shoeplay... Too bad that where I live we don't have much trade shows going on... and when there are, it's in places far from where I live.

Anyways, I'm getting lucky sometimes in a library where I study.

diplover1974 · Post by **diplover1974** » Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:18 pm

Rowbbinn I agree, trade shows & conventions are the best place, no doubt, plenty of stands, lots of chances to watch some action.
When I go my first thing to do is to do a general tour and check for best spots, stand view, angle, number of hostess per stand ( usually where you have many hostess they tend to shoeplay more often and engage in feet/shoe conversation .. ) , also I try to get there during a lunch hour to check where they go for a snack and sit down and , when I can stay to the very end.

Footsiefreak, that time when I was busted, it was a different situation because well, I spotted the security guy a longtime before he called the cops, ans so I wasn't hanging out near the shoeplayer store/window, I kept walking while talking on the my cellphone. And that stupid guy just kept following me around, everywhere... so when I took a turn 3 guys, completly normal just flashed some badges and took me into a internal alley in the shopping mall, and frisked me and asked me a bunch of questions, never related to that shoeplayer store or women, they were just wondering why I was at the shopping center for so long.. and asked me if I knew why they were asking me .. I said no. Just said I've talking on my cell, bothering nobody, minding my own business, that I was upset about crisis, guys that owned me money,etc... I just turned the story around...
The week after I went to the same shopping center, checked the same girl, the security guy saw me again, but didn't follow me around anymore. He just stared and kept talking to a shop assistant , but I kept to myself, speaking on my cell again.. he kept doing his rounds but didn't bother me again.
I went there 5 or 6 times, no problems again.

You might ask why did I kept going there... well that shoeplayer was awsome !!

She is a blonde I saw her with black and yellow flats, she doesn't mind collegues or clients to engage in a great shoeplay session, heelpoping, rotates her flats 360Âº, dipping her feet and making her flat to fall on the side, and sometimes getting both feet off her flats.. the store she works on sells clothing and it has a sideview to the shopping alley were there are 2 benches / couch where I could sit and get a perfect view from the knee down, her face and chest were covered by shirts & pants hanging.

I agree with you Footsiefreak, sometimes we have to learn to move along, it's not easy. I made another rule , ehehe, if it's just heelpopping I don't stay more than 15 min. If you have a hostess or shop assistant that in 15-20 min alone, with no clients, no one to bother with her feet or legs hurting doesn't engage into dipping, playing with her shoes, etc... mmhh she's no shoeplayer. Sometimes I go there a second time, later or even on another day, if the same thing happens. I go somewhere else.

This last week I got lucky, very lucky. One of the shopping centers I go , there's a lingerie store that has 2 good shoeplayers, but the view isn't very good because they see you directly across... so I usually I don't stay there more than 5 or 10 mins. And lately not much shoeplay, don't know why... anyway this last week they changed the store to another alley in the center, and to announce it they have a stand in some kind of internal plaza with a hostess anouncing the new location and giving discounts.
Last Monday I was passing by when I saw this mature woman with a young 20's in black shorts and flats dipping madly with her left foot. They both left the stand and headed to the food court, I followed them to see where they would eat. I figured it was mom & daughter. the daughter kept dipping in line waiting for her food, she sat down and dangled her flat . 10 mins later she put both feet down and left only her toes in her flats doing a mix of heelpopping & dipping until the end of the meal.

I was thinking... mmh great, too bad I won't see her again.

Then I went to an ATM got some money, payed some bills, and passed at the lingerie stand, there she was the young 20's daughter was one of the hostess... bang, I knew I had to stay there. and I did.
What a show. while she was there, even with customers, she couldn't stop dipping, rubbing her feet on her other leg, streching one leg a letting her flat slide to the floor and then doing rotations 360Âº.. when she was behind the counter she took both flats off and rubbed her feet together.
She even did an amazing move, she bended over the counter and started an heelpop of both feet at the same time and ended with dipping both feet pressing her toes to the back of the flats... WOW !
The good thing is that just behind the counter there's a huge poster that leaves all the action from her knees to her feet visible, on the side there's a mirror so if you stand behind, even far away, you get to see all the action.
Of course there are cameras & security guys.. it can't be perfect I know !

Since this is a temporary stand I knew I had to get the most of it so...I went there everyday... it's addictive I know.

Of course she noticed me 2 or 3 days later.. on one of the days there were some friends of her there, she told them something they were looking at me all 3 ... I didn't care, kept talking on my cell, 40 meters away, looking at some clothing shop promotions...
The security guys don't bother me, sometimes one or two pass by me real close to see if they can hear a conversation or something. But as long as I don't give them an excuse I guess it's ok, be we always need to stay alert & vigilant..

mmh going there in 15 mins... eheheh Stay tuned!

notalwaysright10000 · Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:16 am

@diplover1974 Just so you know, if you're talking about the USA, that security guard had exactly *zero* legal right to detain you unless he caught stealing merchandise or assaulting someone or explicitly breaking some other law.
Unless there's something you left out, not only did you not have to stick around for the plain clothes police to arrive, you could have simply said, "Fuck off" and walked away -and if he'd tried to restrain you, you could have punched him and knocked him on his ass with *perfect legality*.

Something a bit like this happened to me when I was eighteen. There was no fight, butI'd been lingering around a food court for quite some, and even though I was well dressed and "unthreataning" (I *had* been there for over three hours) a security guard came up to me and, basically, told me I looked suspicious.
"And?" I said. "I can look as suspicious as I damn well please".

Only police can stop you for looking suspicious, and even then they can't detain you unless they find evidence you've committed some crime (or have reason to link you to a specific preexisting crime). End of story, no exceptions, none.

Bottom line: there is a grand total of exactly *zero* American laws against looking suspicious. Your only real concern is embarrassment.

Footsiefreak · Post by **Footsiefreak** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:20 am

Well diplover its a dangerous game you are playing so be careful.I can handle security guards but once the cops get involved just bail out.I wouldnt even go back to that place where that guard knows you.Hes probably just keeping a record of all the times you are there.Then he will call the cops and then the cops will threaten you with a trespassing or loitering charge.

Do you record these women if you do put up a channel?

Footsiefreak · Post by **Footsiefreak** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:29 am

Notalwaysright is 100% right you dont have to take any nonsense from a security guard.They dont have the right to touch anybody if they do you can legally defend yourself.I worked in retail so I lknow their limitations.

But I will share back in the 90s I would watch this dipper who was doing surveys in the mall.So after a while she got was to me and she called a security guard and I could hear them talking.She said I was there alot but the guard said "If he is not talking or touching you I cant do a thing.He as as much right to sit there as anyone"

Footsiefreak · Post by **Footsiefreak** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:35 am

At this point law enforcement knows about us so they know what we are doing.We cant kid ourselves and say we are not doing anything wrong.Theres such a thing as getting the wrong cop who has nothing else to but to put away somebody for something that is not illegal

diplover1974 · Post by **diplover1974** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:03 am

Notalwaysright I agree too, the security guard can't do a thing, only the cops can. But even so, being sitting on a bench talking on your cellphone isn't a crime, they had nothing but of course I'm not going there everytime, after that event I was there 5 or 6 times at the most in 4 months period.. He didnt detain me, the cops approached me directly.

Footsiefreak, it only happened once, and only at that specific shopping center because there's more assaults & stealing , there's a police station right at the door... other than that no problems at all. I agree with what the guard said "If he is not talking or touching you I cant do a thing.He as as much right to sit there as anyone" .. if we had trade shows on every city at least once a week this would never happen ...

I don't record them because simply they would have a good reason to kick me out of the shopping center, get caught... I found a couple of shoeplayer's spots, good view, unsuspicious, I don't want to get caught, I mean those security guys just need and excuse... getting a camera out or pointing the cellphone might be that excuse.

Most of the times I prefer when the face is covered by some poster or something, they feel less threaten, I mean there is hardly a perfect situation, perfect shoes, they are willing to shoeplay, you have a perfect view, nobody cares if you are watching or for how long you are there...

I remember a few months ago I found a perfume/body care shop that had 3 different girls working there, luckly I found one of them to be one of the perfect shoeplayer, I mean she would not stay more than 20 seconds without doing some kind of move, heelpopping or dipping, with 4 different types of shoes, with or without customers, I also had a perfect view behind the counter and there was this huge banner that hide her from the waist up. It was almost perfect.
Her dipping was perfect, her feet were amazing, she really liked to play with her shoes, the only time I saw her sit on a small side counter they had on the store she dangled one foot first and started playing with her other foot, after a 20 sec. dangle she dropped both shoes with a loud noise ( I heard it outside the store...) and started rubbing her feet together... Great memories, she got relocated, a month ago I found her at the same perfume store but on another shopping mall, very close to my house but with a totally different store display, no view beside or behind the counter, I can only see her when she's attending customers near the displays, not much action, and the store is always too crowded with customers, and to get a good view you must be facing the store...

That got me thinking that I must get the most of the opportunities, there it is an amazing shoeplayer on of the best... no good view...zero chances of getting the show I know she is capable of.. Oh well, there are tons of chances out there, we need to be there at the right momentat the right time.,,
Winter is just around the corner.. another dreadful period of boots and Zero chances of shoeplay.

Footsiefreak · Post by **Footsiefreak** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 5:22 pm

Just curious diplover you a bare or hosed lover?

Im trying to think of some other places where they dont get suspicious at all like Starbucks,book stores, etc.

diplover1974 · Post by **diplover1974** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:12 pm

I prefer hosed but a good shoeplayer with flats & barefeet will get my attention for sure.
As long as they shoeplay with heels, pumps,flats,ballerinas .. I'm in !

Food courts, starbucks they're all good. But lately I'm scanning shopping centers because the work/dress code when they are working is different, they tend to stay at least 6 hrs with that outfit and in a standing position... but then well we have the viewing problems & security..
Libraries and study halls are good too.
Casinos too, waitresses always wear heels, sometimes women at the table dealing are shoeplaying too.

Try to find near some office building a food court, you might have the chance to find groups of shoeplayers heading to lunch..

Footsiefreak · Post by **Footsiefreak** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:23 pm

diplover1974 wrote:I prefer hosed but a good shoeplayer with flats & barefeet will get my attention for sure.
As long as they shoeplay with heels, pumps,flats,ballerinas .. I'm in !

Food courts, starbucks they're all good. But lately I'm scanning shopping centers because the work/dress code when they are working is different, they tend to stay at least 6 hrs with that outfit and in a standing position... but then well we have the viewing problems & security..
Libraries and study halls are good too.
Casinos too, waitresses always wear heels, sometimes women at the table dealing are shoeplaying too.

Try to find near some office building a food court, you might have the chance to find groups of shoeplayers heading to lunch..

Casinos!Thats the last place I saw the best dipping shows!They have alot of female pit bosses especially at the craps tables.I have about 3 regulars that always gives a great show.Not the waitresses because they have that strap on their shoe.

Mr. Mike · Post by **Mr. Mike** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:48 pm

I will give my 2 cents on this subjuct since I have done quite a bit of filming (until the heirarchy at YT shut me down).

To me, nothing is better than trade shows. I have snuck into dozens in the last few years and they are by far the best. I usually hit them early afternoon, give the women a good 4 hours or so in th heels and that's usually when the show begins. The malls are probably the 2nd best place. i have 3 that i frequent and i know a lot of the stores that I check out, the ladies know my face. Couple things i have learned; 1 is I never talk to any of these ladies. I'm usually faking a phone and just walking around waiting for something. The other thing is I never go there late at night towards closing (although being married pretty much makes that impossible). I don't ever want to give the impression that I'm there toward closing and that I could be stalking them after work in the parking lot. I have been hitting these malls every week for 6+ years w/o incident (knock on wood). I'm sure security knows who i am but I have obviously never posed a threat to anyone.

I do agree, no matter where you are, you NEED to know when to get out. I've left while the women are still shoeplaying because sometimes, if you start to feel uncomfortable, it's for good reason. Always love when people leave comments on your YT videos that you should "film longer or "get closer"...it's always from people who have never shot their own videos.

BTW, why have all the casinos made it basically mandatory that cocktails waitresses wear strappy heels? When I was younger, i would just hangout by the drink stations and these women would dip endlessly~

I'm sure I'll come up with others...but keep hunting!

Footsiefreak · Post by **Footsiefreak** » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:10 pm

Mr. Mike wrote:I will give my 2 cents on this subjuct since I have done quite a bit of filming (until the heirarchy at YT shut me down).

To me, nothing is better than trade shows. I have snuck into dozens in the last few years and they are by far the best. I usually hit them early afternoon, give the women a good 4 hours or so in th heels and that's usually when the show begins. The malls are probably the 2nd best place. i have 3 that i frequent and i know a lot of the stores that I check out, the ladies know my face. Couple things i have learned; 1 is I never talk to any of these ladies. I'm usually faking a phone and just walking around waiting for something. The other thing is I never go there late at night towards closing (although being married pretty much makes that impossible). I don't ever want to give the impression that I'm there toward closing and that I could be stalking them after work in the parking lot. I have been hitting these malls every week for 6+ years w/o incident (knock on wood). I'm sure security knows who i am but I have obviously never posed a threat to anyone.

I do agree, no matter where you are, you NEED to know when to get out. I've left while the women are still shoeplaying because sometimes, if you start to feel uncomfortable, it's for good reason. Always love when people leave comments on your YT videos that you should "film longer or "get closer"...it's always from people who have never shot their own videos.

BTW, why have all the casinos made it basically mandatory that cocktails waitresses wear strappy heels? When I was younger, i would just hangout by the drink stations and these women would dip endlessly~

I'm sure I'll come up with others...but keep hunting!

Maybe casino security knows about us too lol I think its so that the girls shoes wont go flying off and cause an accident.

diplover1974 · Post by **diplover1974** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:41 am

MrMike, welcome & feel free to leave your opinion & stories.

I agree 100% with your opinions, we NEED to know when to leave, and don't leave at closing time...
The Casinos at the drink station... lovely memories.. 4 or 5 dippers at the same time...
What was your YT channel ? did they give you a warniing or reason to shut it down ?

Footsiefreak, I remembered aother cool spot, food courts at the airport..

Mr. Mike · Post by **Mr. Mike** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:43 am

It was under "brttlt68"
No reason, no warning, just woke up one day and I could access my page!

rowbbinn · Post by **rowbbinn** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:53 am

Well guys, let me ask you something... I need an opinion!

And this fantastic topic is about it.. so...

I'm going to my college's library very often... I get in and pretend that I'm looking for someone there (but you know what I'm really looking for, right?) Well... I'm doing it very often... and when I don't find anything interesting I just get in, take a look (pretend) and leave. When I find something that interests me I guess you all know what happens, right?

My question is.... is my behavior suspicious? I mean... It's a library I'm going there to look for my friend (that will never ever be there

) and study right?

What do you guys think about it? I'd appreciate some opinions.. So? Let's talk about it

Footsiefreak · Post by **Footsiefreak** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:32 am

@Rowbinn you have nothing to worry about its your college library and you have a right to be there.Just as much as I have the right to go to a public library and watch for shoeplay

Footsiefreak · Post by **Footsiefreak** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:38 am

Yeah business conferences are the best all you have to do wear a shirt and tie and no one suspects a thing.They also give out free food LOL!I went to a Japanese conference once and just sat next to the most attractive women and watched them shoeplay and they fed us breakfast annd lunch :superlol:

You just go online and look for conferences in your area

diplover1974 · Post by **diplover1974** » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:44 pm

@Mr.Mike
you had some great footage... too bad they shut your account.

@rowbbinn
I agree with Footsiefreak, you have nothing to worry.

Footsiefreak, I agree conferences are a great place too.. there will be heels for sure, so women & heels... well you'll have some shoeplay !