Never satisfied

[ShoeplayJ]

I hope this kind of question isn't frowned upon, but I'm just really curious. For all the folks who share content, either paid or free, how do you handle those occasional people who get very whiny and nitpick-y about your content? My wife generally gets great responses with the content we put up, especially here. You guys have been awesome! So none of what I'm saying is directed at any of you. I've been a long-time fan of this site since 2006, and I've never had one negative thing to say about it.

With that being said, at other places, such as YT, every so often we get hassled by these folks who seem to be never satisfied with anything. There's criticism, and then there's being nitpick-y to the point of being demanding and sounding entitled. "It should've been barefoot" "I hate THESE shoes. Would've been better in [insert shoes]!" "need to see your face" "no nail polish please!" "why is it so short?!" etc etc. A lot of these folks who DEMAND stuff are folks on YT who have never purchased any of our existing material or purchased a custom, and never even told us what they DID like.

I guess the thing that really makes my blood boil, is just the sense of entitlement some folks have. A lot of it sounds like "I like THIS! And you didn't do what I like! So F you for doing things that I don't like!!". And these same people turn around, and wonder "where did all the good foot sites/people/channels go?". It can get exhausting, because we're still fairly new to this, and learning. We've only been really doing this since last June. That and we don't have the budget for the kind of stuff that a lot of these folks are deman -- excuse me, ASKING.

I could just ignore them. I suppose I just wanted to get that off of my chest.

[MDEEM]

Well if they don't like what ya'll have to offer, straight up tell them to swan dive off a bridge...And youtube has become super wack these days, and the majority of whiners on there just DO it for doing it...And call it like it is; most of them ARE demanding...

[ShoeplayJ]

"Swan dive off a bridge" lol, I like that.

I personally don't care if people don't like it. I know we're not for everyone. It's these folks who have to be so vocal, and act like it's our fault that we can't read their minds, or as if we're posting things that they don't like, just to spite them. You'd think, that common sense would kick in and tell them "if you wanna see something different, request it", or go somewhere different. But I guess you can't use what you don't have.

On the flipside, we've met some very generous people, who have really helped us out. One gentleman in particular, has provided us with lots of shoes and nylons. It's always a pleasure to do customs for him, because he's been so great. That, and because he has great taste, so I really love filming the stuff he likes. And there's another person, who's offering to donate some stuff too. So, we've definitely met some great people, while doing this. But every now and then, certain personalities leave a bad taste in your mouth...

[Ravenstein]

I know what you mean. There was this guy who hopped from video to video disliking videos posting comments along the line of: "she is not wearing hose, she is barefoot, therefore she is a barefeet classless trash."

[KMFDNFAN]

Again, I can't help but wonder if some the people with our fetish are a little off. I mean, we want our fetish to be accepted, but these people are getting angry. NOBODY should get angry when it comes to sexual pleasure. People HAVE TO OPEN THEIR MOUTHS and it's scary.

[nyllover]

Well...i created my first website in 1997...so i think i have a bit of experience to share

You need to learn to distinguish between different kind of nasty comments...and treat them differently, always at your advantage.

The haters. Those comments that come from people that are just envious about your work...those are the guys that more often than not would say things like "come on, it takes 1 minute to get a phone and shoot a video, can't be hard to do it better". Ok, you can and need to totally ignore them. If you answer in a nasty way, you'll get a flame going on...and that won't bring you any good. If you can, delete their comments.

The guys with different tastes. Well, even if their comments are nasty...take notes from them, try to see if there is a pattern, if there are certain kind of things that keep being said over and over...perhaps you could get new ideas on what people could like as well. Don't ignore them, actually try to let them explain more and more why they didn't like your videos...they could help or you could even find a new customer there

And then well...you will always find those that comment on your videos saying "you are a nasty pervert", "your brain has issues" and bla bla bla... needless to say...ignore these assholes

Surely NEVER let them put you down or make you stop on what you are doing. There is no reason in doing so, especially since you say there are actually people that appreciate your work. Always focus more on them, always keep them in mind...otherwise you will just give up, sooner or later.

[ShoeplayJ]

Thanks for your remarks, fellas. I feel a lot better, today. And we got some pretty good pedal pumping footage done. I experimented with a new angle, tonight and it worked! So anyway...

Ravenstein, I think I've actually seen that guy around. It's annoying, when they go from vid to the next, and say the same things. There was a guy, a few years ago, who would do the same thing, but only he preferred it to be barefoot, instead of nylons. I always shook my head, at the way this cat conducted himself. He was going around, practically reprimanding people for not doing more barefoot stuff. More flies with honey, than vinegar, ya know...

KMFDNFAN, See, it kinda makes you wonder, doesn't it? People take this stuff waaaaaay too personally and seriously, sometimes. I'm just thinking, "if you don't like it, move on to something else. Or suggest it without being a jacka*s!".

Nyllover, You're absolutely right, and that's exactly what we like to do. I guess, on a bad day, we feel kind of singled out by these folks. It's like "why are you taking your frustration out on us?". Meh. But truthfully, I get bored with doing the same thing all the time, too. So I study other people's stuff more, and compare our feedback, and I then I'll show the wife and say "let's give this a try, huh?". Many times we've shot videos, based purely off of a suggestion someone left. Then I'll go back and find the person, and give them that video as a gift! I love seeing people's reactions, when we do stuff like that. These type of people, make it worthwhile and exciting, like "ok, what can we do next?!". I guess, because I know how it is, to keep searching, and nobody ever has quite what you're looking for. Or some people get really close, but they're still missing that one thing. I like to try and remind myself, how agonizing it could get for me. And I'm certainly not into the idea of giving up on this. I'm having fun! The fact that we've been getting such regular followers and fans, tells me we're doing something right. We tell people all the time, to send us suggestions about what they'd like to see. Those who are willing to work with us, and not chew us out over every little thing, always get first priority! I really appreciate your input, man!

[llama]

Pay no mind to comments on the YT videos, except what nyllover suggested- a repeptitve theme or suggestion. Ive found most of these are a special kind of dumb LOL I prefer faceshots in my candid videos , but I dont comment faceshot please on every video...I just choose to watch vids that include faceshots. IDK whats up with most of the people that comment on YT, but as the old saying goes, "Don't let the bastards get you down"

[KMFDNFAN]

I agree with the post above. But I also still want to stress the point that if there are users on this forum that are making said comments, you should really stop. I am one to believe that women are NOT IMPRESSED by our foot fetishes. Maybe they don't hate it....but I don't think they are teasing us. I don't think they are trying to seduce us.

I get very scared when people on youtube suggest that the girl is teasing on purpose. Unless we're talking about Lexi Lapetina, I kindly doubt a woman at the office gives a shit about what we think about her feet.

Anyone who reads this and gets angry...I'm talking to YOU, AS WELL. We are not posting on this forum to impress you. It's nice to be thanked, but sometimes, I see users getting upset and withholding posts because nobody acknowledges them. That is counterproductive. I am not gonna kiss your feet for posting youtube videos. I don't post great stuff, myself, yet I'm still here and some of you guys seem to like me. I respect you all and am fully thankful for the posts, but we have to stop getting emotional.

We belong to a community so it is important for us to set examples for the strangers that wonder onto the site. Some of these guys that we're pissed at probably visit Nyllover for our posts. We should show them a good attitude. They're going to stumble upon this forum eventually. They need to see just how to act. They're fucking up and none of us are helping. We're just making it a competition. None of us are getting paid. We are a free zone. Most of us will never meet in person.

I don't post great stuff. I am thankful. But we are better than this. These creeps on Youtube can't be stopped. The only way to stop them is to outlaw foot fetish altogether. So we all GO DOWN TOGETHER. HAHAHAHAHA. I don't want that.

[llama]

agree KM.... As a lifelong shoeplay voyuer I say the vast majority of women a re cluelss that I am watching, and those that do catch on either get offended and leave or I imagine are amused and continue. I can count on one hand how many I feel were actually engaging in active foot teasing. The comments of users or the original posters that "She Knew" are 99% hogwash I imagine

[ShoeplayJ]

I think, it would benefit us all to treat each other better, in general. Offer suggestions, where necessary but not being jacka*ses. If it's not your cup of tea, make a suggestion or just move on. To start whining about how it doesn't measure up to your standards or expectations, is just tacky. If it was something you request that didn't follow what you asked for, then that's a completely different story. But don't just happen upon someone's content and start complaining because they didn't read your mind ahead of time, and post what you like to see. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean that someone else won't.
I mean, it baffles me, how personal, people take this stuff. For instance, I hate when I see comments on candid videos, saying "you should've gotten closer" or "the camera is too shaky!". Things like that can't really be helped, much. Unless it's a person like the "Candid German Shoeplay" guy or something, then I imagine the camera is probably shaky because the guy's nerves are shot to hell from both excitement and fear of getting caught. Usually it's not as shaky as what they try to make it seem. These folks expect cinema quality candid videos. And how close is a person supposed to get? It's like they expect you to "take one for the team", risk embarrassment and get escorted out of where ever you are, just so they can have wank material that's "good enough". But I digress.

I'm not sure what to say about the whole "she's teasing me" bit. It seems like wishful thinking on the part, of the person saying it. I don't see these comments made very often, so I guess I'm not too concerned about it. You make great points, as usual, though KM. And llama, I understand what you meant earlier about facial shots. That's totally cool! I have no problem with the fact that people have differing tastes. I just can't stand the people who e-mail us, practically demanding that my lady show her face. I'm like "seriously? What if she doesn't want everyone to know about this?". If we didn't have so many narrow minded and vindictive people in both our families, then I imagine, it wouldn't be an issue. But again, I digress.

[llama]

I also have the experience of having won a camera (WooHoo!) from a local bank and having shot my own candid vids (that I never really shared much) So I realize that sometimes a face shot isn't possible (although in these cases I usually remembered their faces). But even when shooting these myself , to presumably my liking, I didnt always capture perfect stuff. You are never going to please everyone..do the best you can and hope that as many people as possible like and enjoy them. To the others? Good luck finding other content that suits their kinks better I guess.

[usuallyright10000]

I think the proper response to people who whine about free content is to offer them a refund. (Irony)

That said, there are two things that really irritate me:

1) Knuckleheads who incorrectly put "shoeplay" in the title when there is exactly *none* to be seen -some are even dimwitted and stubborn enough to carry on extended arguments that yes, foot shaking IS shoplay! Yeah. Jackass.

2) Bullshitters who claim their vids are candid when they are inarguably staged. I don't like having my intelligence insulted.

[nyllover]

I think the proper response to people who whine about free content is to offer them a refund. (Irony)

LOL...that made my day

[ShoeplayJ]

LOL Mine too. It's usually the geniuses who ask where the "rest of" a preview is it. Usuallyright, there was a fellow on YT a few years ago was notorious for doing the exact thing you mentioned in your first point. Several people tried to explain to him, that if the woman in question is not taking her shoes off, in any way, then it isn't shoeplay. He'd post up 30 minute long videos of some girl just sitting there, doing nothing, with maybe 2 seconds of minor heelpopping, through the whole thing. At least that was free. He'd have been better off, if he'd have just labeled it as "shoe fetish" or something.

I know what you mean with your second point too. It never really mattered to me, because I like both. However, I can see how it would be annoying, if you're after candids and someone is clearly trying to pull a fast one. I used to post videos of Nani, that started off until she noticed the camera, and then started to put on a show. I never knew what to label it as, so I just explained the situation in the description. I have to laugh at these very well lit, perfect angle, too good to be true "candid" videos. Especially when there are way too many movements, or the girl shifts from movement to another, so quickly. I just shake my head and say "ok, yeah, nobody does that...".

I hate fake pedal pumping videos, personally. Well, I don't really "hate" them. I don't feel that strongly about it, but it is irksome. Like, I have no problem if the girl is gonna sit there and pump the pedals of a car, that isn't running. I don't quite get that, but if her movements and footwear are just right, then I'll sit and watch. lol What bugs me, is when the vehicle is clearly not running, yet they still digitally added in car sound effects. There's a girl on YT, who did a "cranking" video, but you can hear where the audio got cut and looped back around. What's even funnier, is that, as much as people praise that girl, someone called her on it. I remember thinking "finally!". lol I'm not even really into cranking, that much (I prefer watching driving videos), but I was like "seriously? this is insulting".

[pumplover]

This is has been something good for me to read. As someone who has only tried to ever post original shoeplay content on my previous two Youtube accounts..I just wish I had more comments....bad or good.

Do any of you who post also get frustrated with lots of views and no comments? granted, I post now only to the board and link to my vids from there, but still its gets a little discouraging.

[ShoeplayJ]

Do any of you who post also get frustrated with lots of views and no comments? granted, I post now only to the board and link to my vids from there, but still its gets a little discouraging.

Yeah, sometimes. Honestly, I'd rather have just a few intelligent and mature comments, than have a million whiny and perverted ones. I mean the ones where they're like "I'd like to c*m all over your feet!" or any other variation of "I just w*nked it*. It's one thing to be subtle about it, or hint at it. But those dudes, that come right out and put their business out there...yeah, that's just...no. The Miss has had to ask a few people to settle down with those, on our old channel. Stuff like that, is why I didn't come out to her, about my fetish, right away. Those comments ruin it for everyone else, and either the person shuts their channel down or YouTube shuts it down. One of those two. But hey, what d'ya do? That rarely happens for us, though. Although, one person who has bought a from us in the past, is bad for sharing that kind of info. Nani never acknowledges those comments, yet he still doesn't get it.

[llama]

This is has been something good for me to read. As someone who has only tried to ever post original shoeplay content on my previous two Youtube accounts..I just wish I had more comments....bad or good.

Do any of you who post also get frustrated with lots of views and no comments? granted, I post now only to the board and link to my vids from there, but still its gets a little discouraging.

I rarely post YT comments anymore...IDK i guess I have just gotten lazy...But I will still post them for an extremely good candid with a faceshot or For someones first post that is well done, I will offer encouragemnet and maybe some pointers that I hope don't come off as complaining.

[nyllover]

Do any of you who post also get frustrated with lots of views and no comments? granted, I post now only to the board and link to my vids from there, but still its gets a little discouraging.

Well, if it's a video on Youtube...i personally don't mind if there are no comments. Altough it makes me wander why some videos have lots of comments and some don't. Of course it's a different story if we talk about a blog post or a post on a forum...yes, in that case, i do like comments to be there

[pumplover]

I appreciate what we have here. It's really the only place I can come and feel open about discussing and sharing this part of me.