The end of candid shoeplay on C4S?

[Leopard]

Oh my friend the last part unfortunately is only a dream now....

Well, if the face of the woman can be seen, I'm not 100% sure is legal, even if recorded out in the open.
Opening a section like that... I don't know...this forum has always been about sharing, not selling...

[nyllover]

I'm just not sure it would be a good "fit" for this forum....that's all... never say never

[formerlyknownasE]

Well, if the face of the woman can be seen, I'm not 100% sure is legal, even if recorded out in the open.
Opening a section like that... I don't know...this forum has always been about sharing, not selling...

Its legal as long its in a public area as you waive your right to privacy(so not bedroom, bathroom etc) but me personally I don't look to get faces as I don't feel morally right revealing faces to strangers.

[assy]

From what I know posting videos of people without their consent is generally forbidden. Doesn't matter if what they do is out in the public.
I love candid shoeplay, but I also understand that the Internet wanking over the feet of someone's wife/daugther/mother/sister/partner/friend etc. will not go down well (especially in the current climate). On top of that there is always the risk of stalkers as some candid vids even show name badges of hostesses filmed.
In general I noted a marked decline in public shoeplay over the years. Not sure if women cottoned on to foot fetishists and decided to keep their feet in even if it's uncomfortable, or if shoes just got too comfy to bother playing with...

[MelFresh]

The oher problem with nylon candids is, that they are practically became non-existent. There are no trade shows, and also the working crowd started to dress even more casually during/after the covid. So I am skeptical that we will reach the pre-covid levels of ladies wearing nylons. I think it will be much worse after everything goes back to normal.

My last trade show visit was in march 2020, a smaller motorcycle show. There were 10-12 girls wearing nylons, some with sneakers some with boots, some with pumps. During the whole afternoon I could capture 3 minutes of shoeplay in a dark corner, which turned out to be too dark. It is of course frustrating, that some 5-10 years ago central europe was a gold mine of nylon scenes, and now the future is totally bad looking. Travel restrictions, lack of nylons, casual looking girls....

I totally agree with you. Just ten years ago almost all young women in Europe (including students and corporate staff) used to wear ballet flats as their default footwear. Now almost all of them prefer wearing sneakers and more casual outfit in general. Youg generation is focused on ecology and healthy lifestyle so less formal style is very common among them these days. Of course the fashion is changing all the time but I'm affraid we will have to wait few years for the better times

[TekkenGuy]

Sadly, candid feet videos were collateral damage in the crackdown against child and revenge porn. The non-consensual nature of candids means any restrictions on child porn would carry over to the candids.

[nyllover]

We all saw this coming...but now it's official. Clips4Sale is removing all candid content.

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[Leopard]

Very sad times ahead of us... Anyone knows where else to find real candid stuff?

[Baloo_135]

Some candids are on smaller sites here and there but it's only a matter of time.

What if we do a trade within our group? I take candids of my wife from time to time. Sure it isn't like catching it in public but it still is fun. Also I'd love to see what kinds of shoeplay you guys get to see on a daily basis. Let me know if it sounds like a good idea

[ShoeplayJ]

What if we do a trade within our group? I take candids of my wife from time to time. Sure it isn't like catching it in public but it still is fun. Also I'd love to see what kinds of shoeplay you guys get to see on a daily basis. Let me know if it sounds like a good idea

I do the same thing and I think it's a great idea. If not here, I've stashed away a few ideas for how and where such a network could be set up.

[ShoeplayJ]

The thing is that, per the European laws (GDPR especially), we simply CANNOT provide those documents to Clips4Sale. We can sign any document or anything they want saying we have them, but giving it to them would put us in huge danger here in Europe.
I am in touch with many big production companies and they all agree that Clips4Sale (or anyone else, since Pornhub sometimes asks the same) simply cannot ask anyone to give such sensitive information of someone you are working with

I'm super late but I forgot to ask. If European law states that you cannot hand over those documents, where does one go from there? Are you simply out of luck at that point?

Mastercard didn't exactly require them to do what they are doing, in no place of their new regulations they require them to provide such specific documentation. They just tell them to have a procedure in place to verify all user-uploaded content. We upload the content, so why not just leave to us the responsibility to show that documentation if requested to do so?

I realize this could've changed since July, but if I understand correctly, Mastercard isn't even requiring C4S to go all out and purge like they've been doing?

What a strange and exhausting saga this is.

[nyllover]

I'm super late but I forgot to ask. If European law states that you cannot hand over those documents, where does one go from there? Are you simply out of luck at that point?

Clips4Sale actually agreed to let us fill in a form in their system that says we have all the required documents and we are ready to hand it over if required. If we will be requested to hand it over, we will do it but covering all the model's personal data. We can't really do anything else but this, per GDPR rules.

I realize this could've changed since July, but if I understand correctly, Mastercard isn't even requiring C4S to go all out and purge like they've been doing?

True, but companies want to play safe. Look at what happened to PornHub: they made all they could (perhaps a bit late, but they did) to follow MC rules...but MC has still to give them back the ability to process transactions.
Thing is, if Mastercard (and visa will follow) decides you can't process transactions anymore, your business dies. Doesn't matter how big you are, you cease to exist the day after MC decides that. Mastercard is basically...blackmailing the whole adult industry, and all the mainstream media is like cheering up to that. Disgusting.

[gaticom]

How to contract with another store "tag zone"?

[ShoeplayJ]

So it seems C4S purged several more stores, including my favorite #87990, but at least he's on Facebook.

I know C4S is trying to protect their own asses but I still really hate it has to be like this. On the other hand I'm hopeful that another platform will come along where we can exchange and distribute this stuff, even if I have to design and develop it myself, which I'm almost tempted to try.

I hope these efforts do actually see a reduction in illegal and harmful content on these platforms. I still find it interesting how this all started with an investigation with Pornhub, even though Facebook has been to discovered to have a much more large amount of illegal content than PH ever had. I forget the exact figures but it was a MAJOR difference. It really does feel like an unfair attack on the adult industry. It's a damn shame that those who aren't even producing actual sexual content are caught up in the crossfire.

[Leopard]

It's unbelievable.. You are so right about it.

So it seems C4S purged several more stores, including my favorite #87990, but at least he's on Facebook.

I know C4S is trying to protect their own asses but I still really hate it has to be like this. On the other hand I'm hopeful that another platform will come along where we can exchange and distribute this stuff, even if I have to design and develop it myself, which I'm almost tempted to try.

I hope these efforts do actually see a reduction in illegal and harmful content on these platforms. I still find it interesting how this all started with an investigation with Pornhub, even though Facebook has been to discovered to have a much more large amount of illegal content than PH ever had. I forget the exact figures but it was a MAJOR difference. It really does feel like an unfair attack on the adult industry. It's a damn shame that those who aren't even producing actual sexual content are caught up in the crossfire.

[nyllover]

It really does feel like an unfair attack on the adult industry. It's a damn shame that those who aren't even producing actual sexual content are caught up in the crossfire.

The adult industry has always been under attack...but recently we are being targeted even more. What Mastercard did is pure censorship... one way or another we will survive, but I'm sure users, in the end, will be those suffering the most.

[ShoeplayJ]

It really does feel like an unfair attack on the adult industry. It's a damn shame that those who aren't even producing actual sexual content are caught up in the crossfire.

The adult industry has always been under attack...but recently we are being targeted even more. What Mastercard did is pure censorship... one way or another we will survive, but I'm sure users, in the end, will be those suffering the most.

I was thinking about this the other day and trying to remember the word — censorship is exactly what it is. The users are indeed the ones "taking the L" on this one, being both a user and a vendor, I can feel the frustration from both fronts. It would've never been my primary revenue source, but when filming with my wife slowed down majorly recently, even I recently started capturing candids in the wild again and toyed with the idea of putting them on my store. So much for that.

[Tomi]

I am still speachless about the crack-down on candids. Actually candid feet is to my opinion not even adult stuff. It is labeled by some as adult, but it is kind of "either ... or".

From my side I haven't really had time to make candids in the last 1-2 years before covid. And then it became more or less impossible mission. I hope some of the candid guys (some of which I know personally) will find new channels and soon or later continue posting. So far I have no news from any of them...

[nyllover]

I am still speachless about the crack-down on candids. Actually candid feet is to my opinion not even adult stuff. It is labeled by some as adult, but it is kind of "either ... or".

Well..the thing is that, lately, the definition of adult stuff is "video guys watch just to masturbate"....I believe that's what we all do watching these videos... right?

[Collegetownstudios]

I am still speachless about the crack-down on candids. Actually candid feet is to my opinion not even adult stuff. It is labeled by some as adult, but it is kind of "either ... or".

Well..the thing is that, lately, the definition of adult stuff is "video guys watch just to masturbate"....I believe that's what we all do watching these videos... right?

No, I don't masturbate at all to this.
Which is funny, because ssumed I do.
I see this the way some people see beautiful works of art in a museum.
Good art, like, REALLY good art, gives you a SERIOUS thrill in its presence.